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Trump Tells 'The Divider' Authors He Won't Elect Pence in 2024 | Books

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According to an interview with the author of a new book about his time in the White House, Donald Trump won’t pick Mike Pence as his running mate if he runs for president again.

Trump told Peter Baker and Susan Glasser that it was “totally inappropriate.” Trump said “Mike committed political suicide” by refusing to turn down the Electoral College vote when Trump lost to Joe Biden in 2020.

The New York Times’ Baker and The New Yorker’s Glasser are the husband-and-wife team behind The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021, which comes out next Tuesday. The Guardian obtained a copy.

The author interviewed Trump twice for the book, in April and November of last year.

As Vice President, Pence played a purely ceremonial role in proving election results.

In the absence of evidence, alleging election fraud, Trump and advisers, including law professor John Eastman, called on Pence to dismiss the results from major states.

Pence refused to cooperate with Trump’s plan after consulting advisers including conservative Judge J Michael Luttig and former Vice President Dan Quayle.

The Capitol was then attacked by a mob who knew Trump was armed but were told to “fight like hell” to stop the certification. , Trump tweeted that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what had to be done to protect our country and our constitution.”

Some rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence.” A gallows was set up outside. As his Jan. 6 committee of the House explained, Pence and his Secret details of his service narrowly escaped the attackers.

In testimony to the committee, the former Trump aide said then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told another senior aide that Trump “thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think so.” [the rioters are] doing bad things “

Whether or not Pence committed “political suicide”, as Trump alleges to Baker and Glasser, remains an open question.

Pence maintains his position on the certification process. In Florida in February, he told the conservative federal association: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election.”

But in Trump’s dominant Republican Party, presidential candidates must balance loyalty with their own candidacy.

Polls for the 2024 Republican nominee show Trump clearly leading a challenger led by Trumpist Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

Pence is generally back in the flock, a name Trump may still be considering for a new running mate, South Dakota Governor Christy Noem, and former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley to stand out among them. Together, they scored in the single digits.

Like Norm and Haley, the only black Republican in the Senate, Tim Scott of South Carolina has presidential ambitions of his own. But Scott also refused to dismiss his idea of ​​joining Trump’s ticket.

On Monday, the cover of Pence’s own White House memoir was released. In her back cover text, Pence says she was “mad at what I saw” on January 6th. If I do not”.

But as Axios reported, “the bulk of the book is about Pence’s journey of faith” and his “behind-the-scenes policy push.”

In their book, Baker and Glasser also describe Pence’s extreme loyalty to Trump before the Capitol Riots, and even when Trump has frequently discussed replacing him in 2020, he’s criticized. He didn’t give up his stance.

Quoting an unnamed person who worked with Pence, the author writes: [he] Of Trump, they would say, “He’s like an untamed lion that’s come to town.”

“When this person made a sharp criticism, the vice president simply replied, ‘I am praying for him.'”